: We have been assimilated. We are now among the Minvan People.
Yes, we bought a minivan. Well, a not-so-mini minivan.
A 2006 Toyota Sienna LE. Blue-gray exterior, gray interior.
Seating for 6 comfortably, 7 if three are skinny or real good friends.
With the back seats up, there's almost as much cargo space as Cyn's Forester.
With the back seats down, there's more room than my entire Legacy.
And with the middle seats out, I can fit an entire sheet of plywood in there. (actually, I could put a few sheets vertically between the middle seats, and still carry 5 people!)
It's one of the only minivans with AWD, and we still believe we'll go back to ski in Tahoe again.
The dealer's sticker was $17,600.
Their internet asking price was $16,891.
We got them down to $15,999.
They're a Ford dealer. They don't know about Toyotas. They didn't know what options it actually had, and left them out of the price calculator.
Kelly Blue Book on that van, in the condition it was actually in, was $19,020.
KBB Private Party value was $16,820.
The passenger-side power door didn't work. They didn't even know it WAS a power door, but after we hammered them down, I got them to agree to pay the local Toyota dealership to fix it as part of the sale. But on the way home, I found the button that locks it closed, and it works fine now, so I let them off the hook.
It has a Class III tow hitch, with electronic braking system. (I don't think I'll ever use this, but it would have raised the price a grand or so)
We probably should have bought something like this in 2005 instead of Cyn's Forester - but she needed a car fast after the (paid off) Jetta was totaled.
It doesn't handle quite as well as my Legacy. Big surprise. But it does handle very smoothly, and I'm getting used to sitting up high above the road.
They only offered us $1500 on the old Legacy, KBB says it's worth $3000-$3500 as a trade-in, so we'll be selling it privately.
Last year we were planning to get my mom's 2005 Dodge Caravan, at a severely discounted price, but Mom decided she was going to keep it and run it into the ground out there instead of buying herself another new car next year.
Oh well.
With her van we might have had to keep the Legacy for ski trips anyway, as hers wasn't AWD.
We have an offer for the Legacy. If it falls through, it's a 2000 Legacy wagon with 108K miles. Runs great, will probably go another 100K, body is in fair shape.
Yes, we bought a minivan. Well, a not-so-mini minivan.
A 2006 Toyota Sienna LE. Blue-gray exterior, gray interior.
Seating for 6 comfortably, 7 if three are skinny or real good friends.
With the back seats up, there's almost as much cargo space as Cyn's Forester.
With the back seats down, there's more room than my entire Legacy.
And with the middle seats out, I can fit an entire sheet of plywood in there. (actually, I could put a few sheets vertically between the middle seats, and still carry 5 people!)
It's one of the only minivans with AWD, and we still believe we'll go back to ski in Tahoe again.
The dealer's sticker was $17,600.
Their internet asking price was $16,891.
We got them down to $15,999.
They're a Ford dealer. They don't know about Toyotas. They didn't know what options it actually had, and left them out of the price calculator.
Kelly Blue Book on that van, in the condition it was actually in, was $19,020.
KBB Private Party value was $16,820.
The passenger-side power door didn't work. They didn't even know it WAS a power door, but after we hammered them down, I got them to agree to pay the local Toyota dealership to fix it as part of the sale. But on the way home, I found the button that locks it closed, and it works fine now, so I let them off the hook.
It has a Class III tow hitch, with electronic braking system. (I don't think I'll ever use this, but it would have raised the price a grand or so)
We probably should have bought something like this in 2005 instead of Cyn's Forester - but she needed a car fast after the (paid off) Jetta was totaled.
It doesn't handle quite as well as my Legacy. Big surprise. But it does handle very smoothly, and I'm getting used to sitting up high above the road.
They only offered us $1500 on the old Legacy, KBB says it's worth $3000-$3500 as a trade-in, so we'll be selling it privately.
Last year we were planning to get my mom's 2005 Dodge Caravan, at a severely discounted price, but Mom decided she was going to keep it and run it into the ground out there instead of buying herself another new car next year.
Oh well.
With her van we might have had to keep the Legacy for ski trips anyway, as hers wasn't AWD.
We have an offer for the Legacy. If it falls through, it's a 2000 Legacy wagon with 108K miles. Runs great, will probably go another 100K, body is in fair shape.

